problems with 32.dll when loading drivers

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

'95 'group included as I use the '95 shell, via 98lite "Sleek" option.

I recently had a play with soporific's UBCD, a. k. a. "Windows 98, 10th
anniversary edition". I think a vast amount of work has gone into it,
and when installed from scratch as I did on a laptop for a friend, it
worked well (including the universal USB driver).

However, as with many such things, trying to install over an existing
system (even though it does include an option to do so) is more
problematical.

Anyway: I've finally got my original system back, due to use of some
ERDs from before I tried it, with one exception (that I know so far,
anyway): it initially manifested as the sound, but I think is more
fundamental.

My sound isn't working. I've obtained the drivers from the manufacturer
(A??? motherboard; "Realtek AC'97 Audio"), since I couldn't find the
mobo CD.

Device Manager shows it, with a black-on-yellow "!". Properties shows
under Device status "The NTKERN.VXD, MMDEVLDR.VXD device loader(s) for
this device could not load the device driver. (Code 2.)\\To Fix this,
click Update Driver to update the device driver." When I do, I get the
usual wizard. Whether I let this look for the right driver (they're sort
of in place, the install software having done its stuff to that extent,
or I unzipped something, I can't remember) or I tell it where to look, I
get to the "Please wait while Windows searches ...", then I get a -
old-fashioned style, no close button - window in screen middle that says
"Rundll32\\An error has occurred in your program. To keep working
anyway..." and Close and Ignore buttons. If I click Ignore, nothing
happens; Close brings up a (Windows style this time) "This program has
performed an illegal ..." with Close and Details>> buttons. If I close
this, all windows (back to and including Device Manger) disappear.

If I remove the Realtek from Device Manager and restart, I get found new
hardware, with various windows appearing as normal, then it locks up (I
can't remember with what error message): if I Ctrl-alt-Del at that
point, I can get back to a blank desktop (no icons or taskbar, just a
mouse pointer). The only way out of that (it happens again if I restart)
is to use the old ERD again.

My Rundll32 file is fine (I never suspected it anyway, as it usually
gets "blamed" when something else goes wrong, but I have checked it).

I get something similar when trying to install another piece of hardware
(a microscope - i. e. basically a camera - and I am doing it according
to the instructions, i. e. drivers before connecting): _something_
crashes, at the point after it's "found" the new hardware and is doing
whatever it does next at that point.

Any suggestions what is wrong and how to fix it? (Getting sound back
would be a start, but I suspect that needs the problem solving anyway.)

[It may not be UBCD that screwed things up, but I know at least one
poster who will think it did ... (-:]

[Gary S. Terhune]

Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
'95 'group included as I use the '95 shell, via 98lite "Sleek" option.

Then you're not running Windows 98. Please go find a more appropriate
newsgroup. I presume "98Lite" has it's own well-staffed and informative
communinty forum or other support. Oh... It doesn't? In fact, unless you BUY
the professional edition, there's no support at all? Guess you're SOL.

And please note that there is no such newsgroup as
microsoft.public.win98.general.discussion

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

Post by Gary S. Terhune

Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
'95 'group included as I use the '95 shell, via 98lite "Sleek" option.

Then you're not running Windows 98. Please go find a more appropriate

I have - the '95 one. They're friendly.

Post by Gary S. Terhune
newsgroup. I presume "98Lite" has it's own well-staffed and informative
communinty forum or other support. Oh... It doesn't? In fact, unless you BUY
the professional edition, there's no support at all? Guess you're SOL.

I have found (especially on the '95 group) plenty of people to help me,
and whom I can help, with various things. I've even helped people in the
'98 one. I acknowledge your right to hold the views you do about 98lite
(and soporific's work - I'm closer to you on that, though we don't
actually converge).

Post by Gary S. Terhune
And please note that there is no such newsgroup as
microsoft.public.win98.general.discussion

I cut and pasted that from somewhere, rather than making it up.

[Gary S. Terhune]

No, I meant a group who could truly understand the nuances of your butchery,
you know, one that SPECIALIZES in 98Lite.

Or aren't there enough of you to warrant that?
--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)

Post by Gary S. Terhune

Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
'95 'group included as I use the '95 shell, via 98lite "Sleek" option.

Then you're not running Windows 98. Please go find a more appropriate

I have - the '95 one. They're friendly.

Post by Gary S. Terhune
newsgroup. I presume "98Lite" has it's own well-staffed and informative
communinty forum or other support. Oh... It doesn't? In fact, unless you BUY
the professional edition, there's no support at all? Guess you're SOL.

I have found (especially on the '95 group) plenty of people to help me,
and whom I can help, with various things. I've even helped people in the
'98 one. I acknowledge your right to hold the views you do about 98lite
(and soporific's work - I'm closer to you on that, though we don't
actually converge).

Post by Gary S. Terhune
And please note that there is no such newsgroup as
microsoft.public.win98.general.discussion

I cut and pasted that from somewhere, rather than making it up.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985
MB++G.5AL(+++)IS-P--Ch+(p)Ar+T[?]H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
** http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/G6JPG-PC/JPGminPC.htm for thoughts on PCs. **
"If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were standing on my
shoulders."
Newton [deliberately] misquoted by Hal Ableson, then quoted by chris harrison.

[Gary S. Terhune]

Wow! This Win95 room is downright drafty. When's the last time a maid was in
here to clear out the cobwebs?
--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

Post by Gary S. Terhune
No, I meant a group who could truly understand the nuances of your
butchery, you know, one that SPECIALIZES in 98Lite.
Or aren't there enough of you to warrant that?
--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)

Post by Gary S. Terhune

Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
'95 'group included as I use the '95 shell, via 98lite "Sleek" option.

Then you're not running Windows 98. Please go find a more appropriate

I have - the '95 one. They're friendly.

Post by Gary S. Terhune
newsgroup. I presume "98Lite" has it's own well-staffed and informative
communinty forum or other support. Oh... It doesn't? In fact, unless you BUY
the professional edition, there's no support at all? Guess you're SOL.

I have found (especially on the '95 group) plenty of people to help me,
and whom I can help, with various things. I've even helped people in the
'98 one. I acknowledge your right to hold the views you do about 98lite
(and soporific's work - I'm closer to you on that, though we don't
actually converge).

Post by Gary S. Terhune
And please note that there is no such newsgroup as
microsoft.public.win98.general.discussion

I cut and pasted that from somewhere, rather than making it up.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985
MB++G.5AL(+++)IS-P--Ch+(p)Ar+T[?]H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
** http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/G6JPG-PC/JPGminPC.htm for thoughts on PCs. **
"If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were standing on my
shoulders."
Newton [deliberately] misquoted by Hal Ableson, then quoted by chris harrison.

[Gary S. Terhune]

Nevermind, they were just hiding.
--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

Post by Gary S. Terhune
Wow! This Win95 room is downright drafty. When's the last time a maid was
in here to clear out the cobwebs?
--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

Post by Gary S. Terhune
No, I meant a group who could truly understand the nuances of your
butchery, you know, one that SPECIALIZES in 98Lite.
Or aren't there enough of you to warrant that?
--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)

Post by Gary S. Terhune

Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
'95 'group included as I use the '95 shell, via 98lite "Sleek" option.

Then you're not running Windows 98. Please go find a more appropriate

I have - the '95 one. They're friendly.

Post by Gary S. Terhune
newsgroup. I presume "98Lite" has it's own well-staffed and informative
communinty forum or other support. Oh... It doesn't? In fact, unless you BUY
the professional edition, there's no support at all? Guess you're SOL.

I have found (especially on the '95 group) plenty of people to help me,
and whom I can help, with various things. I've even helped people in the
'98 one. I acknowledge your right to hold the views you do about 98lite
(and soporific's work - I'm closer to you on that, though we don't
actually converge).

Post by Gary S. Terhune
And please note that there is no such newsgroup as
microsoft.public.win98.general.discussion

I cut and pasted that from somewhere, rather than making it up.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985
MB++G.5AL(+++)IS-P--Ch+(p)Ar+T[?]H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
** http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/G6JPG-PC/JPGminPC.htm for thoughts on PCs. **
"If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were standing on my
shoulders."
Newton [deliberately] misquoted by Hal Ableson, then quoted by chris harrison.

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

Post by Gary S. Terhune
Wow! This Win95 room is downright drafty. When's the last time a maid was in
here to clear out the cobwebs?

Someone from another room is now standing in the doorway growling at
anyone who comes near ... (-: [Actually, I've found it a friendly and
helpful 'group.]

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

Post by Gary S. Terhune
No, I meant a group who could truly understand the nuances of your butchery,
you know, one that SPECIALIZES in 98Lite.
Or aren't there enough of you to warrant that?

I've been using 98lite for years, and in general have found little to
denigrate it - and frequently felt that it has saved me from things that
using the '98 shell would have subjected me to.

No, I can't give any specific examples at this very moment.

If you feel so strongly that it renders the priests of purity liable to
be tainted, then please feel free to ignore any threads in which I ever
mention it. Some of them might even dare to speak for themselves ...

Leaving aside our own personal feud, does anyone else out there have any
positive suggestions as to what might be the cure for my problem with
loading drivers?

(Incidentally, I have tried switching back to the "chubby" - I think it
is - version, the one that uses the '98 shell, which didn't make the
problem go away.)

[Jeff Richards]

Allright.

PLEASE don't post questions concerning 98Lite here. It's unlikely that
anyone here uses it. Any answers you do get are likely to be wrong and will
probably further corrupt your system. If, by chance, someone does reply
with something useful, then there is no way that anyone later reading this
thread will be able to work out whether or not the suggestion is relevant to
their system, and it is possible that it may actually be damaging. Since
most people who would know the difference are not going to engage in the
thread at all, then the potentially damaging instructions will go
uncommented.
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)

snip <
If you feel so strongly that it renders the priests of purity liable to be
tainted, then please feel free to ignore any threads in which I ever
mention it. Some of them might even dare to speak for themselves ...